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    April 18, 2013
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big electric fences to serve as the last line of defense during flooding to keep asian carp from migrating into a canal that runs directly into lake michigan. tonight, with all of the flooding in and around chicago, the fear is that the river will soon crest above the height of those fences. rendering them useless and potentially sending asian carp right into a waterway in which there is no last line of defense. and then what happens to the great lakes. forecasters say all of the rain in the chicago area is ending tonight. but what that means for the threat of the dreaded asian carp invasion we have been fighting so long and we now have an asian carp for here in washington, on that we will have to keep you posted. now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence o'donnell again in boston tonight. have a great night. >> people are already calling the fbi tonight, hoping to help identify the two men suspected of planting bombs here in boston. bombs that killed three people,
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including the 8-year-old boy who will never return to the third grade classroom that i visited today. >> at this time, these are the people of interest. somebody out there knows these individuals. >> authorities have the face. >> we consider them to be armed and extremely dangerous. >> it's not going to take long for somebody to recognize these people. >> no bit of information, no matter how small or seemingly n inconsequential is too small. that. >> investigation could be moving faster, were it not for the successful lobbying efforts of the national rifle association. >> the nra has acted shamefully. >> this bill only managed to win 54 votes. >> if the nra didn't score this, we would have had 15 more votes. >> is there any difference between sandy hook and boston other than the choice of weapon? >> the president and first lady are already on their way to attend an interfaith service. >> every one of us has been touched by this attack on your
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beloved city. >> how can a good god allow bad things to happen? >> we are are shaken, we are are not foresaken. >> god's love will yet have the last word. >> we will have accountability without vengeance. vigilance without fear. >> they picked the wrong city to do it. not here in boston. tonight, the fbi has a new most wanted list. these guys. the fbi is asking for your help in finding two suspects described as armed and extremely dangerous. during a press conference earlier this evening, investigators put out this video of the two men, both wearing caps and dark jackets, walking through the marathon crowd on
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monday. special agent in charge richard de sonia said the nation is counting on information provided to us. he said anyone with any information should call 1-800-call-fbi. we're going to be showing you this video over and over again tonight, in the hope that some of you might see something, anything helpful to the fbi. and although the nation is rightfully fixated on the details of this investigation, here in boston, many are only able to glance at the investigation headlines through their grief and mourning. for boston, the loss suffered on monday feels personal, even to people who don't personally know any of the victims. president obama came to the cathedral of the holy cross today, just a short walk from the finish line of the marathon
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to talk to boston and the nation about that personal loss. >> our prayers are with the richard family of dorchester. to denise and the young daughter, jane. as they fight to recover. and our hearts are broken for 8-year-old martin with his big smile and bright eyes. his last hours were as perfect as an 8-year-old boy could hope for. with his family, eating ice cream at a sporting event. and we're left with two enduring images of this little boy. forever smiling for his beloved bruins. and forever expressing a wish he made on a blue poster board.
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no more hurting people. peace. no more hurting people. peace. >> today i visited with the school where those words were written. no more hurting people. peace. the neighborhood house charter school is in the neighborhood where i grew up, dorchester. and it is the richard family school. i saw martin richard's desk in the third grade classroom that he'll never return to. i saw his little sister jane's desk in her first grade classroom that she will surely return to when she recovers from the loss of a leg. and i saw the school library that would have closed down, were it not for the personal efforts of martin and jane's mother, denise, who is the school librarian. she is in a boston hospital
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tonight, recovering from serious head injuries. no family suffered more on monday than the richard family. and no boston institution has suffered more from the bombing than the neighborhood house charter school. i used to be a teacher in the boston public schools, and i've never seen a better elementary school here than the neighborhood house charter school, which was co founded by the headmaster, kevin andrews, 18 years ago. mr. andrews invited me into his house today. . >> kevin, on monday, everyone in boston and everyone from boston spent some period of time, hours, for some of us, tracking down everyone we know, making sure they were safe. what was that afternoon like for you? >> frankly, it was -- prior to the bombing, was a great at a day in boston. my wife and our god child had gone to the marathon at
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heartbreak hill. and we said, what a great day it is. and, you know, we went back home and, you know, had lunch. late lunch. and everything was great. and then on tv we hear about these bombings. and never could really -- explosions, they called them. so at first you kind of think, gas company. oh, here we go again. another mistake. but it wasn't the gas company. and then emotions kicked in pretty heavy. and i started praying right away. with my wife. and just said, you know, we hope everybody is wrong. but at that time we had heard that martin had lost his life. and that was hard. no sleep that night. and we heard about jane.
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and, you know, we prayed some more. for them and then denise. you know, who is -- the library is going to be closed down at the end of last year. we ran out of kind of funds. and denise said she would even volunteer for a small salary, whatever it is. i would like to keep the library open. and for a small salary she kept the library open part time. she is a pretty remarkable woman. very wonderful with the kids. firm. she is a firm person. she is a real mother of three kids. you know. everybody is going to toe the line, do what you're told. don't ask more than once. kind of a model mother you want to have raising your children. every time i would come through the library to go to my office,
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i would say, good morning, denise. good morning, mr. andrews. i remember one time i told her, you can call me kevin. and she said, i know, mr. andrews. >> so this library is really denise's monument. it literally wouldn't be here without her. >> yeah. i mean, we were going to close it down. i mean, there's no question. we weren't -- maybe the books would still be here. but there wasn't going to be a librari librarian. and i wasn't about to have kids check out the books and come back and everything -- the dewy decimal system is all kind of screwed up. and, you know, dr. seuss is over near the geography area, you know. so you've got to have someone here. and she stepped up. >> have you been able to speak to denise? >> no. the family really wants privacy. so i think it's just family that's involved. maybe some close friends. and we really here in dorchester respect privacy.
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someone tells you they want the privacy in dorchester, you give them privacy. >> we know what they mean. >> we know what they mean. so we give it to them. >> so this is martin's classroom up here. >> yep. this is martin's classroom. third grade. his locker is here. that's his locker. and his time line, there is a picture of him on the beach. this is the classroom. and there's martin's -- here he is. math scores. up to his tens. i don't know if he'll catch jack. but he's pretty up there. martin is doing pretty well. >> yeah. >> pulling a strong second right now. there he is. great classroom. great teachers. you know, good student.
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quiet kid. you know. quiet kid, strong boston ack is accent. loves sports, loves the bruins. loves the celtics. loves the red sox. really loves dustin pedroia. that's his favorite athlete. >> what is your plan for monday? especially in this classroom? when everyone knows martin is not going to return? >> well, we're going to acknowledge, martin is missing. martin will no longer be with us. we'll have professionals here, along with the teachers, to work with the young people. monday is going to be hard. we'll do what we have to do to allow the children to express themselves, no matter what happens during the day, for the week, if it takes a month, whatever it takes.
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we're going to bring back normalcy to the school. so our kids are ready. and they will be. we'll give them a hug. and we'll move on. and they're going to learn. we're going to tell them, you've got to still learn. you've still got to be smart. how can we be as smart as martin. how can we do our math facts as well as martin. >> now, the president is a great writer, and he's a great speech writer. he's got a lot of great speech writers working for him. but today the most poignant line in the cathedral was written by one of your third graders. it was written by martin. >> we're left with two enduring images of this little boy. forever smiling for his beloved bruins and forever expressing a wish he made on a blue posterboard. no more hurting people. peace.
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no more hurting people. peace. >> what was it like for you as an educator, sitting in it that cathedral today to hear the president quoting the work done by one of your students in this room? >> he needs more consultants like martin. sometimes kids just get it right. you know, it was -- it's hard. you know? so it's hard hearing those words. it's hard hearing his name. it's easy to it's easy for me to talk about it. but to listen is when the emotion comes in. and so i was, you know, taken away by that. you know. as that -- here's martin again. >> let's go take a look at the classroom that jane is going to be coming back to. >> sure.
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they're honoring her. the kids made some cards and honor her. jane. we're very happy that they're doing this for them. so it's going to be hard. going to be hard. it's a good school. i guess i would say it 100 times. it's a good school, good staff. that's how come when jane comes back, kids come back, we're going to be able to really embrace this as something to learn from, to help us make our student body even stronger. and so we're not -- this makes us stronger. you know. we're -- there's a lot of heart in this school. a lot of family in this school. a lot of determination, resilience. but, you know, she still will be jane, and i'll still joke with
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jane. and i'll -- you know, the joke i have with her, my own personal joke, my wife's name is jane. and so i always say to jane, "why do i love you, jane?" "because your wife's name is jane." and she smiles and will come over and give me a hug or show me something. she is probably going to be more resilient than most adults. and we'll take her home because we love her. >> well, i think jane is pretty lucky to be coming back to a school run by kevin andrews. that's what i think. >> jane is pretty lucky to have her teachers. jane is lucky. >> thanks. >> thanks. >> i also learned today that for
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halloween jane dressed up as michelle obama. coming up next, the fbi tells nbc news they are already getting phone calls and information from people who think they know the bombing suspects. that's next. and the nra makes this country less safe in more ways than you realize. we will show you how the nra has weakened the investigative tools in bombing investigations. and later, we'll have more of what the president had to say in the cathedral in boston today. the humble back seat. we believe it can be the most valuable real estate on earth. ♪ that's why we designed our newest subaru from the back seat forward. introducing the all-new, completely restyled subaru forester. love.
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once again, these are the men the fbi is asking you to help find. the fbi says they are armed and dangerous, and says they are suspects in the boston bombing investigation. if you think you see anything here, any way that you can help, call the fbi tip line.
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yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. they appear to be associated. suspect one is wearing a dark hat. suspect two is wearing a white hat. suspect two set down a backpack at the site of the second explosion. as you can see from one of the images, suspects one and two appear to be walking together through the marathon crowd on boylston street in the direction of the finish line. somebody out there knows these individuals. >> that was the fbi agent in charge of the boston marathon
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bombing investigation. today the fbi released this surveillance footage, which shows the suspects on boylston street, near the site of the blasts. according to the time stamp, the cameras captured the suspects approximately 12 minutes before t the explosions. the official elaborated on the behavior of suspect two. >> the only one who was observed planting what we believe to be the device is suspect number two with a white cap shortly before the bomb blast went off. within minutes. suspect number two with the white cap on proceeded west on boylston street. >> a source close to the investigation tells abc news that authorities are confident these men committed the crime, due in part to a revealing reaction suspect two had to the first explosion, which was captured on a surveillance
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camera. the fbi has not released that portion of the video that shows that reaction. joining me now is msnbc analyst and former atf special agent james cavanaugh. james, what are you studying in these advice released today? >> well, we looked at them carefully this afternoon, trying to see how these guys interacted with each other. the task force has done a great job. look at number two. i call him white hat. he's got that light-colored top on his backpack, and the parcel fits with video we have seen in the week, pete williams has reported on. and we looked at that carefully, and that's the scene of the blast of the second bomb. so this guy has planted the second bomb. we looked at the dark hat guy as they walk. it's just interesting that the dark hat guy looks a little older, walks in the front.
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and his bomb detonates first. they don't have a video of him planting the bomb. but the -- special agent in charge said they pieced it together. and what they pieced together was the backpack. i'm sure they pieced together the backpack. it's possible he could have laid his hat on the backpack. so they could have found the hat and the backpack. but they were able from the video to say a backpack looking just like that was there. they probably have video of these guys communicating and talking. that's an interesting report about his reaction. these cowards are probably exhibiting some glee and joy at this, you know, vulgar thing they did. but that's going to be they're undoing as well. >> yeah -- >> they underestimated -- they underestimated law enforcement. and they underestimated the resilience of boston. and william pollard would describe it as the arrogance of ignorance. they're going to be caught soon.
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>> james, underestimating law enforcement and the resources they can bring to this, is the most useful mistake that criminals like this make in these situations, isn't it? >> well, it's true. they underestimate the capability. look, you've got the a-team here. if you look at every great celtics team, red sox team, bruins team, rolled them together, all the players, that's the investigative team. they're going to win. they're going to -- they're going to solve the case. you can see it develop in 72 hours. that was a heartbreaking piece you just did at the elementary school. and i've seen all too many bombing victims over the years. and it's a vulgar crime. a mass murder by bombings and firearms are vulgar, vulgar crimes. >> james, before you go tonight, we're going to talk about this later in the show. but we discussed last night what the nra did, and its lobbying campaign years ago to make these investigations more difficult. and i'd like to you just describe that one more time. because i've got to tell you,
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people were absolutely shocked about what you had to say about this last night. >> well, lawrence, in the '70s, i was an agent, just left the police, came to work for atf, we were deep into bomb investigation. the 1968 gun control act came in as a result of the three assassinations. john kennedy, robert kennedy and dr. king in '68. in '70, the explosive control act on the heels of the clan murdering, those four little girls in birmingham with bombs. anarchist bombs, weather under ground. a lot of bombings. congress passed the explosive control act. atf went to work trying to develop these indid he say trubltable ways we could track the bomb after it detonated and it was killed on the hill. i could never -- not tell you how we reacted in atf headquarters. special agents were like, really? the bombers have a lobby on the hill? we can't get this through? to catch bombers? really? i mean, we just couldn't believe
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it. and it was killed. it was also killed again later in the late '80s or early '90s. we tried to do it again. i'll tell you what, lawrence. i bet there is a congressman or senator that watches your show and they could go back to atf and dust that plan off, it's on the shelf, and reintroduce a bill to tag commercial explosives so we can track them. consider tracking smokeless gun powders. and they won't solve every case but some cases and keep a city from this kind of carnage. >> it would be awful helpful to have that evidence tonight. james cavanaugh, thank you very much for joining me again tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, more with investigative reporter frank smyth on exactly how the nra has its hand in this investigation. and a very unhelpful way. capella university understands businesses are trying to come
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as reported last night on this program, the national rifle association has a hand in the bombing investigation in boston, and it is not a helping hand. the nra does not limit itself to making sure that the most lethal possible weapons and ammunition remain available to america's mass murderers. the nra did have a big victory on that front yesterday. in the united states senate. here was former congresswoman gabby giffords' husband's reaction to that senate vote.
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>> if that vote had been a secret ballot, i bet you it would have passed with 80 votes. a lot of the senators that we met with over the past days and weeks, you know, we discussed this legislation with them. we talked to them about how it would work. what it would do. and most of them -- actually, almost all of them said they were in favor of the policy on the merits. they thought it was the right policy. but a lot of them, those folks that voted no yesterday, many of them were looking to get to a no. and it was out of one thing. it was out of fear. again, if yesterday's vote was a secret vote, it would have passed, no doubt. >> as you just heard in the last segment from james cavanaugh, decades ago, the nra quietly and
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successfully lobbied to make bombing investigations much more difficult for the investigators. joining me now with that story is frank smyth, investigative journalist and contributor with msnbc.com. frank, it was your article that i read last night that broke this story. i had a vague memory as i was reading your piece that the nra had succeeded that way. but tell us what you found about their history with this -- basically, helping to suppress evidence in this kind of investigation. >> the national rifle association and other groups going back to 1980, and then again in 1995 after the oklahoma city bombing have lobbied very hard to make sure that the government is not -- cannot mandate explosive manufacturers to put markers, traceable markers known as taggens into gun powder. they can put it into plastic explosives but not any form of gun powder or gun powder based
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explosives. if you had taggens in powder, according to law enforcement sources and the bombs used in boston, it might be possible or easy to identify the manufacture of that powder and then perhaps trace that to a point of sale to suspects, perhaps one of the two suspects we have seen recently on television. but because of lobbying by the nra and other members of the gun lobby, there are no taggens, there are no traceable chemicals inserted into gun powder, black or smokeless powder in the united states. and that is something what the nra is fearing, is that it's that kind of government tracking to lead to the government to be able to track the gun powder inside of ammunition, and it's the same kind of logic that leads them to not want background checks, because the possibility of records and a bigger role for the government. but from a law enforcement perspective, from the perspective of the rest of us that want to see these bombers brought to justice, the lack of traceable chemicals in gun powd
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powder makes it harder for law enforcement or closes down an avenue investigation that should be open, conceivablconceivably, enforcement and a case like this to be able to pursue. >> frank, i know you always touch all of the bases in your pieces. and you reached out to the nra to hear their defense of why they did this. what was the nra's explanation to you? >> lawrence, i've been covering the national rifle association for 20 years. and they have never granted me an interview or given an on the record comment. i originally covered them for the village voice decades ago, and they're not interested in speaking to me. but i was able to speak to an explosive expert who owns a company that has traced explosives, and investigating explosives in use in the united states and saudi arabia. and he made it clear that taggens in these -- in gun powder would be effective in these kinds of cases. >> frank smyth, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> you bet, lawrence. coming up, more from
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should play. >> are you serious? >> yeah. >> are you okay? >> yeah. i can't hear. >> cover your ears. >> get out of here. please, get out of here. >> oh, my god. >> please get out of here. oh, my god. dad, please get out of here. >> that was the terrifying scene in west, texas last night after a fertilizer facility exploded. >> we heard a boom, and then right after the -- right after we heard the boom, the concussion hit. it was enough to take your breath away. >> the family who shot that video that you just saw at the
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beginning of this segment was safe after that. at a press conference tonight, officials were cautious to confirm the number of fatalities, because they say they're still in search and rescue mode. but the mayor of west, texas, tommy muska told the "wall street journal" the number of fatalities is around 14. more than 160 people were injured and some 75 homes and a number of other buildings, including two schools and a nursing home are completely devastated. >> you can imagine, if you would, at the time it that the explosion took place, people sitting in their homes around the dinner table, watching tv, and instantaneously their life is forever altered by an incredible blast that literally blows down the side of their house. these homes that are close to the blast are literally blown
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apart, and blown open. and so the devastation is immense. but i've got to tell you, the other thing that we clearly saw in tooling around west is the clear sign of hope. >> both local and federal investigators are looking into what caused the fire that ignited last night's explosion. the last time the federal occupational safety and health administration inspected that fertilizer facility was 28 years ago. think progress reports, osha is chronically understaffed, which means that a given plant like west fertilizer can only expect to get a state inspection once every 67 years, on average. the "dallas morning news" reports that in 2011, the fertilizer facility told the environmental protection agency and local officials that it presented no risk of fire or
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explosion, the worst possible scenario, the report said, would be a ten-minute release of ammonia gas that would kill or injure no one. president obama called texas governor rick peri from air force one on his way to boston this morning and released this statement. today our prayers go out to the people of west, texas in the aftermath of last night's deadly explosion at a fertilizer plant, a tight knit community has been shaken, and good, hard-working people have lost their lives. governor perry has declared the area a disaster zone. >> west is a -- is a really small community. and just a few thousand people. anyone who grew up like your dad did, doc, and a small town like west, they know that this tragedy has most likely hit
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boston is a city of heroes this week. but none of them want to claim that title. taking credit, even where credit is due, isn't the boston way. as i said earlier, no single boston institution has been hit harder, as suffered a greater loss than neighborhood house charter school in dorchester. 8-year-old martin richard will never return to his third grade classroom. his mother, denise, the school librarian, is trying to recover from a serious head injury. his little sister lost her leg on monday. but everyone at her cool school is already thinking about how to welcome jane back. at the end of my conversation today, with the school's head
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master, kevin andrews, i told him that i thought jane richard was lucky that she would be coming back to a first grade, coming back to a school run by him. >> i think jane is pretty lucky to be coming back to a school run by kevin andrews. that's what i think. >> jane is pretty lucky to have her teachers. jane is lucky. >> "boston globe" columnist kevin cullen, that's the answer, isn't it? >> he's the best. kevin is the best. i'm so glad you went. and i thought you captured -- that's our town. and kevin andrew is the best of the best. and you know, you mentioned that that school was hit so hard, and
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we talked about the firefighters last night. and one of the firefighters who went in there and is actually saw poor martin dead was a firefighter whose daughter was in that third grade with martin. so, again, small big town. >> i want you to listen to something that the mayor said this morning at the cathedral. let's listen to that. >> i'm telling you, nothing can defeat the heart of the city. nothing. nothing will take us down, because we take care of one another. even with the smell of the smoke in the air, and blood on the streets, tears in our eyes, we triumphed over that hateful act on monday afternoon. >> longest-running mayor in this town. has he had a finer moment? >> he's the best. that's tommy menino of the hyde
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park meninos and got out of his wheel chair and got up and did that. god love him. >> let's go to -- there is a very interesting moment today with president obama where he talked about his personal connection to boston. i think we have that on video. let's listen to that. >> every fall, you welcome students from all across america and all across the globe, and every spring you graduate them back into the world. i know this, because there is a piece of boston in me. you welcomed me as a young law student across the river. welcomed michelle, too. you welcomed me -- you welcomed me during a convention when i was still a state senator, and very few people could pronounce my name right. like you, michelle and i have walked these streets.
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like you, we know these neighborhoods. and like you, in this moment of grief, we join you in saying, "boston, you're my home." for millions of us, what happened on monday is personal. it's personal. >> i think he spoke for all the kids who have come to college here. big university town. >> it is. >> i went to college here, but all the kids i knew from out of town loved this place. >> you know, when i watched the president say that, and combined with what happened at yankee stadium the other night, it made me think about the guys that put those bombs there wanted to tear us apart. and you listened to the president, and you saw what everybody did at yankee stadium the night when they sang "sweet caroline" for us. and they brought the -- the
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bombers did just the opposite. i like a guy from a chicago, and i can never write another bad word about a yankee fan. talk about screwing up the narrative. >> you're out of material. >> i'm done. so but it just shows what those guys -- whoever they are -- whether it's those two guys in the images we saw tonight, whoever they are, what they did failed miserably. they didn't tear us apart. they brought us together. as governor patrick put it so well. we don't turn on each other. we turn to each other. and they're doing it in chicago. and they're doing it in new york. they're doing it in philly. they're doing it in atlanta. they're doing it in detroit. i've heard from people all over this country. i'm hearing from people from britain. people in england, scotland, wales, ireland, romania. hey, guys, guess what? messed up. you didn't beat us.
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you made us stronger. congratulations. >> you have been confident all along about this investigation. and we have been seeing your confidence paying off in the mounting revelations -- the accumulation of this evidence. >> absolutely. i think we talked about it last night. this was the most photographed terrorist incident in the history of the world. and i mentioned our pal chris matthews, i was talking to chris, who you know loves tip o'neill and i did growing up. tip was my hero. tip said all politics is local. in this town, all law enforcement is local. so it's not just the fbi. state police. but everybody is on it. >> we're going to wrap it there. kevin cull en of "the boston globe" thank you for being here. coming up, more of what president obama said at the cathedral today and a review of what the people of boston have been through this week. are you still sleeping? just wanted to check and make sure that we were on schedule.
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this week in boston began with a planned public ritual, a ritual that began in 1897, the running of the boston more th marathon. it turned out to be the longest marathon we have ever had, because we didn't have the usual finish line experience. the bombs moved the finish line for the runners and for this city. the real finish line, the real end of this marathon, occurred this morning. at another public ritual in a cathedral filled with memories for many of us who were there this morning. some of us can't remember every time we have been to services at the cathedral of the holy cross. but we'll never forget why we were there today. ♪
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it was a beautiful day to be in boston. a day that explains why a poet once wrote that this town is not just a capital, not just a place, boston, he said, is the perfect state of grace. >> there was cloud everywhere. and, yeah, it was loud. it was really, really loud. >> it was unlike anything i had ever seen before. >> they said, dad, you are so lucky. yeah, i was really lucky that it ended up like it did. >> police were all running towards the incident. >> ran over to the barriers and started pulling them down. >> i had a woman who i didn't know came and held my hand. >> what did you to first, who do you get to, who do you help?
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it's one patient at a time. >> 25 hours ago, that clock stopped. >> the clock stopped, because people from this neighborhood came down here and stopped this clock. >> massachusetts invented america. >> america is not organized the way countries are usually organized. we're not organized around a common language. or religion. or even culture. we're organized around a handful of civic ideals. and we have defined those ideals over time and through struggle. as equality, opportunity, freedom, and fair play. an attack on our civic ritual like the marathon, especially on patriots day, is an attack on those values. and just as we cannot permit darkness and hate to triumph over our spiritual faith, so we must not permit darkness and hate to triumph over our civic faith. that cannot happen. and it will not. ♪
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♪ scripture tells us to run with endurance the race that is set before us. >> in a dark hour, so many of you showed so many of us that darkness cannot drive out darkness. as dr. king said. only light can do that. we will recover and repair. we will grieve our losses and heal. >> to push off, to persevere. >> we will rise and we will endure. >> tomorrow, the sun will rise over boston. tomorrow the sun will rise over this country that we love. this special place. this state of grace.